tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-955273524757178757.post7109874718314051367..comments2024-02-06T08:33:52.695+02:00Comments on Eeben Barlow's Military and Security Blog: AFRICA MUST STOP DEMILITARISING ITS MILITARIESEeben Barlow's Milsec Bloghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08942119485068301545noreply@blogger.comBlogger26125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-955273524757178757.post-69144856763509885482016-06-27T14:26:56.201+02:002016-06-27T14:26:56.201+02:00Always good hearing from an old student JR R.
My b...Always good hearing from an old student JR R.<br />My blog is still alive – it was just neglected for a while due to some other priorities.<br />Rgds,<br />Eeben<br />Eeben Barlow's Milsec Bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08942119485068301545noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-955273524757178757.post-76313518908668302602016-06-27T14:17:15.595+02:002016-06-27T14:17:15.595+02:00Thanks The Don…the mood swings are almost gone and...Thanks The Don…the mood swings are almost gone and I have barely managed to survive the withdrawal symptoms. Some days, the urge is very great to light up again. <br />I believe that we are witnessing the propagation of divisive and militant politics and that race and ethnicity have become major factors aimed at overshadowing failures at many levels. And not all of it is locally driven as I recall being told some years ago by a foreign diplomat that SA is too big for one government. <br />We are certainly witnessing a political revolt of sorts. But again, we are also witnessing numerous intelligence and law enforcement failures. No revolt or even genocide occurs overnight or spontaneously. There are – and have been - numerous indications of what was and is coming yet many simply turn a blind eye thinking it will not affect them. <br />I also think that as a country that is part of BRICS, we will continue to be faced with foreign fuel being poured onto the militant politics we witness.<br />Rgds,<br />Eeben<br />Eeben Barlow's Milsec Bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08942119485068301545noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-955273524757178757.post-37295367520437754942016-06-27T14:09:18.242+02:002016-06-27T14:09:18.242+02:00Many thanks Stoor.I am very well and cannot compla...Many thanks Stoor.I am very well and cannot complain. I trust you are well?<br />Many ‘journos’ are merely internet miners and are too lazy to actually do a real story. Besides, if it doesn’t match their perception of reality, they have no interest. But, I have also stopped talking to them as I have come to realise that many of them make their living off reporting on conflicts and when the conflicts end, so too do their ‘scoops’. I recall well the concerns some had when we went to Nigeria and how they did everything possible to bend reality to match perceptions. <br />Ah, the ‘moderate terrorists’ have outwitted the West again. Sadly though innocent citizens become the targets of these evil forces. And of course, you are correct: many people are too anesthetized and have come to accept it all as the ‘new normal’. <br />Rgds,<br />Eeben<br />Eeben Barlow's Milsec Bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08942119485068301545noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-955273524757178757.post-55579848256260212402016-06-27T14:03:15.250+02:002016-06-27T14:03:15.250+02:00An inability to fight is the result of numerous ef...An inability to fight is the result of numerous effects, Tonk. Many African armies are continually deployed on internal law enforcement operations and are ill-equipped to deal with the problems. Then when called upon to fight, they do not have the training, equipment, doctrine and so forth to fight effectively. Some lack both political and military will to end the conflict as rapidly as possible with minimum collateral damage.<br />On the other hand, some so-called insurgent forces are really proxy forces that are at times trained and equipped by the same governments that train African armies. <br />Rgds,<br />Eeben<br />Eeben Barlow's Milsec Bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08942119485068301545noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-955273524757178757.post-54486828484923220542016-06-27T13:58:36.136+02:002016-06-27T13:58:36.136+02:00Many armies in Africa are trained to tie their boo...Many armies in Africa are trained to tie their bootlaces badly Besfort. That is part of the great tragedy. <br />As we are not in Burundi, I am unable to comment on what exactly is happening there.<br />Belated good wishes to you as well.<br />Rgds,<br />Eeben<br />Eeben Barlow's Milsec Bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08942119485068301545noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-955273524757178757.post-86333089906211959962016-06-15T12:01:53.645+02:002016-06-15T12:01:53.645+02:00Good Day Eeben
Excellent thoughts.
Is your blog ...Good Day Eeben<br /><br />Excellent thoughts.<br /><br />Is your blog still active?<br /><br />Regards,<br /><br /><br />An old student of yoursAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17775151225603402168noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-955273524757178757.post-57271997092921996652016-01-10T13:24:07.329+02:002016-01-10T13:24:07.329+02:00Good day Mr Barlow, I trust you are well. I find y...Good day Mr Barlow, I trust you are well. I find your blog really interesting and I am in agreement with the articles that you have posted to date.<br /><br />I would like to pose the following question: What is the possibility of a Revolt/Genocide in South Africa based on the current events in the country? (I base this question with reference to your article of 2 December 2015 titled "Afirca Must Stop Demilitarising Its Militaries"). <br /><br />On a lighter note I trust that the nicotine withdrawals have stopped, however they do tend to give you mood swings! <br /><br />Kind Regards, <br />The DonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-955273524757178757.post-12977163372493356942016-01-09T22:14:32.013+02:002016-01-09T22:14:32.013+02:00Dear Eeben,
First. I want to wish you a speedy re...Dear Eeben,<br /><br />First. I want to wish you a speedy return to full health and an excellent year forward.<br /><br />Second. Regarding the first comment by the Canadian "journo" requesting an interview: I had to chuckle and often think that if these so called journalists did a little more reading through the wealth of information here and elsewhere they'd have at least 99% of all the material needed to provide a concise and accurate synopsis of what you are actually trying to achieve and your opinions on matters related.<br /><br />Then, I am glad that you mentioned the regarding of "Moderate Terrorists" by certain countries who use this type of rhetoric to render aid and comfort to these terrorists under the noses of their constituents, who are too anesthetized to bother even having a coherent opinion about it, let alone use their votes to fundamental change this suicidal landscape that they have entered. Die Stoorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14551841775927975257noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-955273524757178757.post-26776560053868562562016-01-09T06:08:39.507+02:002016-01-09T06:08:39.507+02:00Dear Mr. Barlow,
In your blog post you make many r...Dear Mr. Barlow,<br />In your blog post you make many references to the negative effects of African armed forces becoming neutered peacekeeping forces, especially in the 10th paragraph ("an inability to fight to decisively end conflicts and wars" etc). What are the practices in a peacekeeping focused doctrine that cause these negative effects? I ask this because I am not very familiar with African armed forces, the insurgents they fight, or the tactics used against them.Tonkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06227336343896512185noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-955273524757178757.post-16111923551154117962015-12-22T17:17:54.534+02:002015-12-22T17:17:54.534+02:00Sir Barlow,
What do you think about the news in B...Sir Barlow,<br /><br />What do you think about the news in Burundi these days? Will the army be able to stop the rebels in time before another civil-war starts? I've read that the Burundi army is trained by the Americans (I hope not like they train some countries: control points, and humanitarian operations,and barely a soldier will have the chance to train musketry, military discipline etc.).<br /><br />I also heard that the army is cruelly killing civilians - won't this add sympathy for the rebels among the population?!<br /><br />Have a nice day, and<br />Merry ChristmasBesforthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09053969076773041126noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-955273524757178757.post-28688619061124664292015-12-22T08:56:22.069+02:002015-12-22T08:56:22.069+02:00I shall refrain from comment Unknown.
Rgds,
EebenI shall refrain from comment Unknown.<br />Rgds,<br />EebenEeben Barlow's Milsec Bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08942119485068301545noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-955273524757178757.post-48504110745456833772015-12-12T17:07:33.637+02:002015-12-12T17:07:33.637+02:00WASHINGTON — The Obama administration has overseen...<i>WASHINGTON — The Obama administration has overseen an unprecedented expansion of American military might on the African continent, with dozens of bases and outposts opening there since he took office.<br /><br />A Nov. 17 investigation by Nick Turse, a journalist and American military scholar, found that the United States maintains at least 60 bases or military outposts throughout Africa, although not all are actively used at all times:</i><br /><br />http://www.mintpressnews.com/211971-2/211971/<br /><br />Any comment Mr Barlow ?Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00122674807840987102noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-955273524757178757.post-16723380787483205052015-12-10T16:39:18.009+02:002015-12-10T16:39:18.009+02:00Many of us are extremely concerned, Unknown.
It is...Many of us are extremely concerned, Unknown.<br />It is no secret that a foreign power offered a firebrand young politician in SA weapons, training, money and support a mere 3 years ago. This ought to be a warning to those who have a misguided belief the West will come to save SA – they must open their eyes and realise that is the last thing the West wants. SA is part of BRICS and BRICS is not viewed with favour by the West. <br />Yes, our armed forces are in a state of weakness but one cannot merely blame the government. There are members of the old NP who sit on the boards writing documents on the SANDF and if one looks at where they served in the old SADF, one cannot other than be shocked. Indeed, one was a ‘canary’ in the air force choir yet he now has to write about national strategy!<br />Then there are the foreign powers that have ‘advised’ our armed forces into almost total weakness. Sadly though, our government took the ‘advice’ they were given in good faith and it turned out to be really bad advice!<br />I am not coming up for government as I have no reason to do so. However, one cannot only view our defence-related problems through a single prism. <br />Having travelled the length and breadth of Africa, I am aware of the tragedy it has become, hence my continual battle to try to make it a better place. But, let us not forget the media’s role in this either as they cannot walk away from the problems they have created and claim a lack of accountability. <br />Rgds,<br />Eeben<br />Eeben Barlow's Milsec Bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08942119485068301545noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-955273524757178757.post-73052353979562667062015-12-10T16:14:43.536+02:002015-12-10T16:14:43.536+02:00Mr Barlow,
My thanks for that response of yours. ...Mr Barlow,<br /><br />My thanks for that response of yours. I can't find a source for it, but I've read that Mugabe sent his 5th Bde to Zaire/DRC in the late 90's to plunder that country. <br />Whatever can be said the lesson of the 5th Bde is this - nothing stops violence like the threat of superior violence. <br /><br />Mr Nkomo rebelled against Mugabe, and for this he had to suffer his tribe, the Matabele, being slaughtered. <br /><br />Sometimes I wonder if the (victorious) rebel armies north of South Africa, will not trek to this the last unblemished Eden at the southern tip of Africa, and plunder it. Sooner or later they will realize just how weak this state really is. Why do I say weak ?<br /><br />1) The ANC capitualted to the <i>#feesmustfall</i> students. They didn't even negotiate. They just capitulated.<br /><br />2) Malema's trip to the UK. The foreign powers are starting to back this dark horse.<br /><br />3) These rebel armies must also have seen how pitiful the conduct of our soldiers were in their 'peacekeeping' missions. <br /><br />4) We no longer have an air force. <br /><br />I fear for this country Mr Barlow. We are a pack of dogs tearing each other apart, while across the fence all the vultures looks on, and where the vultures gather, the lions and hyenas will surely come ... looking for an easy meal. <br /><br />What is our future then ?<br /><br />This documentary made by Italians in the 1960's gives an answer. Even then, the Africa they portrayed was a tragedy. I urge you to watch it, but be warned, some of the things will be very uncomfortable to see. I mean it. <br /><br />http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2f3rigUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00122674807840987102noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-955273524757178757.post-62068058531245439912015-12-10T08:31:51.714+02:002015-12-10T08:31:51.714+02:00A valid stone, Unknown.
I personally believe that ...A valid stone, Unknown.<br />I personally believe that Mugabe is still in power as (a) there is no oil in Zimbabwe and (b) he was put there by the West, despite him never having won the final elections making the transition to a new ‘democratic’ Zimbabwe. <br />The 5th Brigade was also Mugabe’s personal army within the army and its initial aim was to commit genocide – something the West did nothing about and said even less about. Entry into the 5 Bde was based on tribal affiliations and loyalties thus rendering it a very subjective force insofar as the populace was concerned.<br />As it never faced any direct military challenge, the 5 Bde was able to roam freely and became a law unto itself. No one challenged them in this and thus they were able to cement a reputation built on fear and terror – and supported by the Mugabe government’s political will and desire to commit genocide. Again, the world turned a blind eye and within the Zimbabwe Defence Force no one dared challenge the 5 Bde as it was a certain path to early retirement – or worse.<br />That said, I called for ‘A well-trained, well-equipped, well-led and disciplined armed force, correctly postured and able to rapidly project decisive force’. But this also requires a stringent vetting process, and an army that is politically astute and non-partisan. Non-partisanship will never truly be eradicated as it exists in ALL armies but its impact can be minimised. The problem is that this does not suit agendas.<br />Sadly, I have witnessed how trainers from foreign powers, who a week after arriving in Africa are ‘African experts; and then exploit tribal divisions and loyalties and in the process, assist this circle of demilitarising and fermenting antagonism. The aim is the same, regardless if we call it demilitarising the armed forces or weakening them to achieve foreign political and economic goals. <br />Rgds,<br />Eeben<br />Eeben Barlow's Milsec Bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08942119485068301545noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-955273524757178757.post-63619964529501913422015-12-08T19:33:24.725+02:002015-12-08T19:33:24.725+02:00Mr Barlow,
To throw a stone in the bush, I am com...Mr Barlow,<br /><br />To throw a stone in the bush, I am compelled to ask you this question : what about Mugabe's 5th Brigade ?<br /><br />By all accounts they are an elite unit only answerable to Mugabe, with a track record for brutality and effectiveness - Joshua Nkomo surrendered to Mugabe in 1987, whereas he didn't do so to Ian Smith in the 70's.<br /><br />Nkomo and his ZIPRA rebels must have resorted to similar tactics against Mugabe as they employed against the Smith regime ... and ZIPRA lost. <br /><br />Is this because Mugabe was more brutal with a better army and had the backing of the media and a sympathetic foreign power ?<br /><br />http://www.nytimes.com/1983/03/06/world/mugabe-s-fifth-brigade-grounded-in-loyalty.html<br /><br />http://stanleymaurojensen.blogspot.co.za/2013/03/the-ruthless-zimbabwean-5th-brigade.html<br /><br />But if this is the case, then why is Mugabe still in power ? <br /><br />It must be the 5th Brigade again. They are a Praetorian Guard, and in ancient Rome even the Senate feared the Praetorian Guard - whomever wanted to be emperor had to have the backing of the Praetorian Guard ... which means the Praetorian Guard had to be bribed.<br /><br />I believe that the 5th Brigade has a similar purpose in Zimbabwe today. So whomever takes over after Mugabe's death, will lose his position in a coup if the 5th Brigade ain't happy.<br /><br />Which is why, methinks, the ANC is neglecting, nay, undermining the SA Military - they don't want a Praetorian Guard - which is politically astute, but militarily an utter disaster.<br /><br />If the military is weak, then the police is next, and that is a recipe for a kind of chaos that is the stuff of headlines. <br /><br />Which explains a lot of what is happening in this documentary :<br /><br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAfzp9eItCU<br /><br />Truly was the king of the Zulus, Goodwill Zwelitini, a prophet when he said that history will judge the current majority electorate harshly for burning down what they inherited.<br /><br />http://sbeta.iol.co.za/news/politics/king-praises-apartheid-regime-1956136Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00122674807840987102noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-955273524757178757.post-36303779215909149982015-12-06T06:21:50.920+02:002015-12-06T06:21:50.920+02:00I have witnessed the misery and harm this approach...I have witnessed the misery and harm this approach has done to Africa Herbert and cannot keep quiet about it. The constant Western concerns for the human rights of those who refuse to acknowledge the human rights of others is sickening. Yet, governments actually encourage this nonsense. I find that astonishing to say the least. <br />We saw the news of the attack you refer to and wondered when the PC brigade would come out and say that it was a ‘moderate terrorist couple’ who simply had a bad day? There seems to be a concerted drive to apologise for those who display and conduct violent behaviour and acts of terrorism. Yet those who react against it, are often criticised as being ‘heavy-handed’ and ‘brutal’. <br />Small nations do follow the money and many are under constant economic blackmail, ICC threat or concerned about regime-change if they do not play the game as dictated by some foreign powers. I have witnessed this and even overheard a command staff being threatened by a foreign military delegation. But, as long as Africa presents itself as unable, uncoordinated, and unwilling, and so forth, these things will happen. <br />Many governments have yet to realise that the threats facing them are not only from domestic anti-government forces (usually with foreign support) but also foreign governments who will stop at nothing to replace them if they do not toe the line. <br />A sorry state of affairs if ever there was one.<br />Rgds,<br />Eeben<br />Eeben Barlow's Milsec Bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08942119485068301545noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-955273524757178757.post-22932204566527155142015-12-06T06:03:37.177+02:002015-12-06T06:03:37.177+02:00Peacekeeping has ended no conflict or war, Stephen...Peacekeeping has ended no conflict or war, Stephen, no matter how those who drive the failed concept wish to doll it up. It has however lengthened their duration and created even more casualties but that is simply overlooked. <br />Rgds,<br />Eeben <br />Eeben Barlow's Milsec Bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08942119485068301545noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-955273524757178757.post-83354167089672364782015-12-06T05:58:27.935+02:002015-12-06T05:58:27.935+02:00Very true Munyul!
Rgds,
Eeben
Very true Munyul!<br />Rgds,<br />Eeben<br />Eeben Barlow's Milsec Bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08942119485068301545noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-955273524757178757.post-214175544025410432015-12-06T05:57:12.018+02:002015-12-06T05:57:12.018+02:00Thank you for your comment Mathias. Whereas I am u...Thank you for your comment Mathias. Whereas I am unfamiliar with the Afghan-adventures of NATO forces, I suspected as much as you highlighted. Unwarfare, political correctness, lawfare, restrictive rules of engagement, courageous constraint and such nonsense was, in my mind, aimed at reducing the aggression of the soldier and turning it into a fear to fight back in case he gets sued by the enemy. Of course, the enemy will get all the assistance he can from the UN, the ICC, and even from the government the soldier represents. <br />In Africa though, governments are threatened is they do not toe the line dictated by foreign powers and the constant disarming, pathetic foreign training, substandard or dumped equipment and so forth is creating a waiting time-bomb that was planned. They also know that they need to be careful how they approach the creeping trap that was laid for them as a too early move could result in a violent regime-change. <br />But many governments have come to realise this and are now silently casting their eyes elsewhere.<br />I do believe that that in all cases, doctrine has been neglected to the detriment of the armed forces and the advantage of the enemy. But political and military will is glaringly absent and in Africa it is manifested by a demilitarising of our armed forces. <br />Rgds,<br />Eeben <br />Eeben Barlow's Milsec Bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08942119485068301545noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-955273524757178757.post-36023133908161535932015-12-05T21:40:07.849+02:002015-12-05T21:40:07.849+02:00Eeben,
Good to see you back on the air, so to spe...Eeben,<br /><br />Good to see you back on the air, so to speak. One of the reasons I enjoy your writing is that it always offers a refreshing blast of truth. This your latest piece is no exception. You've previously seen me rant on about peacekeepers, United Nations types and other forms. So I will spare us that in this comment.<br /><br />Political correctness has unfortunately won the day. I'm reminded of the old Mao adage about first one must capture the vocabulary. They've done it. So now "peacekeeping" cannot be challenged, even when very non-peacekeeping activities are herded under its tent. As you said, to question it is to be labeled a warmonger. PC is so ingrained that I am not sure what to do about it.<br /><br />A similar aside on political correctness is occurring at this moment here in the US. A couple of days ago we had an Islamic terrorist attack in California that killed and injured many people. From the beginning the Islamist motive was obvious to anyone with a pulse. However, our government will not yet even connect the word terrorist to the massacre, although the FBI has proved it down to the molecule level. If you say terrorist you risk being called racist, and if you say Muslim or or Islamic/Islamist with it, you have assured your racist label in the eyes of our current administration. Am I watching a television comedy?<br /><br />Back to Africa. As you know better than I, small nations follow the money. When a large nation offers goodies to a smaller one under the guise of peacekeeping with the potential for more to come, the game is done. Who can compete? And as you point out, it ensures a continuing market for the same old business. How does one compete with a large national budget? The real losers: As usual, the poor people of Africa.<br /><br />I realize that I've simply lamented the sorry state of affairs we've come to, particularly in the West--not much value in that. I detest the thought of surrendering the field to the current crowd, and will never join them. I am fed up and cannot yet see the light.<br /><br />Rgds,<br />Herbert Herberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10905087011597189605noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-955273524757178757.post-44469316844874798042015-12-05T14:44:52.336+02:002015-12-05T14:44:52.336+02:00Excellent synopsis not only for Africa but the ent...Excellent synopsis not only for Africa but the entire world. Did peace keeping end World War 1 or 2? No, it was a truly concerted, international effort that had the slight benefit of a rich benefactor who came into both wars far too late (disgracefully in my opinion)! The United Nations 'Nations' need to all be strong, sharing information, targeting common threats and eliminating them. The UN is, unfortunately, becoming the same 'Paper Tiger' that was the 'League of Nations'!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16592151586208288992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-955273524757178757.post-9415791722433078702015-12-05T08:58:02.373+02:002015-12-05T08:58:02.373+02:00"There are no compacts between lions and men ..."There are no compacts between lions and men , and wolves and lambs have no concord."Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16325272856500311292noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-955273524757178757.post-18098836886615255002015-12-04T21:08:51.397+02:002015-12-04T21:08:51.397+02:00Dear Mr Barlow,
I have the feeling that your thou...Dear Mr Barlow,<br /><br />I have the feeling that your thoughts on peacekeeping armies and unwarfare can be abstractet and transfered on the Afghanistan-adventures of many NATO-armies. As a german veteran I often think about my deployments, now that I started my civilian career. The Insurgents where never a match in the few skirmishes I experienced. But somehow the military leadership and the politics could not or did not want to use the created momentum for keeping up the pressure. In fact we where only fighting when ISAF or allied troops where attacked. It took about two years to deploy (own) CAS, artilery and AIFV´s. Somehow they mixed the phases of war, peacekeeping(-enforcing) and nationbuilding to a great mess. Furthermore it looks like things are happening again... .<br /><br />Yours, Mathias<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13551435842951319209noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-955273524757178757.post-66520252223460642492015-12-03T05:33:42.026+02:002015-12-03T05:33:42.026+02:00Thank you for your message, Catherine, but I shall...Thank you for your message, Catherine, but I shall decline. I have no desire to be interviewed by the media.<br />Rgds,<br />Eeben<br />Eeben Barlow's Milsec Bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08942119485068301545noreply@blogger.com