tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-955273524757178757.post4674440919490108943..comments2024-02-06T08:33:52.695+02:00Comments on Eeben Barlow's Military and Security Blog: THE DEMISE OF AN INTELLIGENCE SERVICEEeben Barlow's Milsec Bloghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08942119485068301545noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-955273524757178757.post-76879659694219954262012-02-03T12:53:27.485+02:002012-02-03T12:53:27.485+02:00I pulled some out of my book case Alex and hope th...I pulled some out of my book case Alex and hope this will help with your reading:<br /><br />1. Aquarium – Viktor Suvorov (Grafton)<br />2. The Black Agent – Laurent Gally (Penguin)<br />3. Hit Team – David Tinnin (Futura)<br />4. Secret Warfare – Bruce Norman (Dorset)<br />5. Memoirs of a Spy Master – Markus Wolf (Pimlico)<br />6. Gideon’s Spies – Gordon Thomas (Pan)<br />7. The Stasi Files – Anthony Glees (Free Press)<br />8. By way of Deception – Victor Ostrovsky and Claire Hoy (St Martins)<br />9. The Intelligence War (Salamander Books)<br />10. Inside the KGB – Aleksei Myagkov (Valiant Publishers)<br /><br />When you are done, I will pass you some more titles.<br /><br />Rgds,<br /><br />EebenEeben Barlow's Milsec Bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08942119485068301545noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-955273524757178757.post-58155058526620641402012-02-03T11:46:16.151+02:002012-02-03T11:46:16.151+02:00Hey Eeben,
I was just wondering if I could take y...Hey Eeben,<br /><br />I was just wondering if I could take you up on your offer of some good recommendations on intelligence-related books? Since most of those available in the UK cover the UK and US intelligence communities, anything you know of that's related to South African or other intelligence and security services would be greatly appreciated.<br /><br />Regards,<br /><br />AlexAlexhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00570878230707886483noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-955273524757178757.post-16526976685167484562009-05-14T18:39:00.000+02:002009-05-14T18:39:00.000+02:00No problem, Alanh2. As Telkom users, I think we al...No problem, Alanh2. As Telkom users, I think we all suffer the same frustrations.<br /><br />Rgds,<br /><br />EebenEeben Barlow's Milsec Bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08942119485068301545noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-955273524757178757.post-26856985972932192062009-05-14T18:38:00.000+02:002009-05-14T18:38:00.000+02:00The phrase is a complete misnomer, Alanh2. Like yo...The phrase is a complete misnomer, Alanh2. Like you, I also realised that there were those who wanted the pose but not the responsibility that went with it. But, I do admit there were some really smooth operators in the real covert world – not those who imagined they worked in a covert environment.<br /><br />I had a smile at your comment about staying alive – I think we all felt that way…<br /><br />Rgds,<br /><br />EebenEeben Barlow's Milsec Bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08942119485068301545noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-955273524757178757.post-53736962234976317112009-05-14T17:51:00.000+02:002009-05-14T17:51:00.000+02:00Hi Eben,
Appologies if you have received multiple ...Hi Eben,<br />Appologies if you have received multiple posts. Seem to be loosing my broadband signal.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-955273524757178757.post-63110872952961732762009-05-14T17:45:00.000+02:002009-05-14T17:45:00.000+02:00Hi Eben,
Did not have much time for SADF's so cal...Hi Eben,<br /><br />Did not have much time for SADF's so called Military Intelligence (isn't the phrase a misnomer?)during the 70's and 80's. Nor for those individuals tasked with collecting and analysing said information.<br /><br />With respect to Lara's issues I can only concur with Robby's comments - too deep for me.<br /><br />As a national service conscript and (later) ACF member my primary objective was to stay alive and to hell with the semantics.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-955273524757178757.post-38946033787920512472009-04-25T07:33:00.000+02:002009-04-25T07:33:00.000+02:00Getting a comment from one of the legends of the S...Getting a comment from one of the legends of the SA Intelligence War is indeed an honour. Thank you for posting it, Gordon. I must hasten to add that I did not comment on your book except for stating that I had not read your book and that I had seen the documents Piet cross referenced to. But I also understand where you are coming from. And those days when all and sundry were working at creating divisions amongst us were indeed difficult. (By the way, when I met Piet last year, he also spoke very highly of you…)<br /><br />My wife also worked for Johnny Johnson (long after you had left) and as a “fellow Johnsonist” sends her best wishes to you.<br /><br />If I may ask: Are you still trying to get your pension from this bunch – or is that just a rumour?<br /><br />Rgds,<br /><br />EebenEeben Barlow's Milsec Bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08942119485068301545noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-955273524757178757.post-14731569133078826682009-04-24T19:13:00.000+02:002009-04-24T19:13:00.000+02:00BEFORE ANYONE COMMENTS FURTHER ON MY BOOK: "INSIDE...BEFORE ANYONE COMMENTS FURTHER ON MY BOOK: "INSIDE BOSS" (PENGUIN 1981)I SUGGEST THEY READ IT.<br />PIET "SWANNY" SWANEPOEL HAS SELF PUBLISHED A BOOK ABOUT BOSS IN WHICH HE ATTACKS ME (AND MY BOOK)GREATLY. OF COURSE HE WOULD, BECAUSE I EXPOSED SECRETS ABOUT BOSS.<br />AND DEAR OLD SWANNY DID NOT LIKE THAT BECAUSE HE WAS THE ULTRA LOYAL HEAD OF THE "WHITE SUSPECTS SECTION" OF BOSS.<br />I SAY "DEAR OLD" SWANNY, BECAUSE I ALWAYS LIKED HIM TREMENDOUSLY WHEN HE AND I WORKED TOGETHER.<br />AND STILL TO THIS DAY I ADMIRE HIM. HE'S A BRILLIANT INTELLIGENCE OPERATIVE. SO HE KNOCKS ME? SO WHAT!WE SPIES UNDERSTAND THINGS LIKE THAT.signed Gordon Winter 24-4-09Dingohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00571787006442035862noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-955273524757178757.post-61703681139879860412009-01-13T06:24:00.000+02:002009-01-13T06:24:00.000+02:00I believe there is much more that could have been ...I believe there is much more that could have been said but that was still classified, Sonny. I also believe that many of us know that the CIA was very active in replacing the NP government with an ANC government. <BR/><BR/>Maybe this will encourage others who worked on the CIA to discuss some of the operations undertaken.<BR/><BR/>Rgds,<BR/><BR/>EebenEeben Barlow's Milsec Bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08942119485068301545noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-955273524757178757.post-28934945051523645312009-01-12T18:47:00.000+02:002009-01-12T18:47:00.000+02:00"Really Inside BOSS" barely touches the tip of the..."Really Inside BOSS" barely touches the tip of the iceberg.<BR/><BR/>It does however make interesting reading.Sonny Coxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14757382346848706440noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-955273524757178757.post-75474646265355289422009-01-03T14:57:00.000+02:002009-01-03T14:57:00.000+02:00It would be a good thing if someone wrote about SB...It would be a good thing if someone wrote about SB operations, Sonny. But, like with all similar books, it will take someone with courage to write it because you can bet that the old and new politicians will be up in arms in trying to stop any such publication.<BR/><BR/>But then again, if no-one writes it, some of our history will most certainly be lost.<BR/><BR/>Rgds,<BR/><BR/>EebenEeben Barlow's Milsec Bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08942119485068301545noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-955273524757178757.post-37915415326631437092009-01-03T14:39:00.000+02:002009-01-03T14:39:00.000+02:00Hi Eben At the end of the day the ANC will stay in...Hi Eben <BR/>At the end of the day the ANC will stay in power.<BR/>Let's break their 2/3 hold of the political arena.<BR/>The DA and COPE can drive the wedge through the middle of their belly.<BR/><BR/>Thanks for informing the 'uninformed' on the BOSS book.<BR/><BR/>When will we see someone come out into the clearing with a "SB Book?"<BR/><BR/>BOSS was formed from their midst...<BR/><BR/>http://www.citizenalertza.blogspot.comSonny Coxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14757382346848706440noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-955273524757178757.post-9982884749281244562008-12-18T12:53:00.000+02:002008-12-18T12:53:00.000+02:00Excellent article on Canadian website:"Ruling part...Excellent article on Canadian website:<BR/><BR/>"Ruling party is plunging South Africa into civil war with its greed, malice...' <BR/><BR/>http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/263651Adriana Stuijthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17786814668987105084noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-955273524757178757.post-66594601607683081042008-12-18T06:16:00.000+02:002008-12-18T06:16:00.000+02:00I believe, as most people do, that a strong opposi...I believe, as most people do, that a strong opposition party is a very good thing, HODD. Furthermore, part of what we are witnessing in Africa is a realisation that times are changing and with that, people’s prospects change as well.<BR/> <BR/>As the size of the middle-class increases, so to do its expectations – and its desire to keep what it worked for. With that also comes a need to be protected from issues such as crime, mindless violence and so forth. When these corner-stones of societal need are not there, people will make their voices heard. <BR/><BR/>Whereas we are witnessing a change in politics, only time will tell where it will lead to. However, I am hopeful that this once-great country will pull itself together and that it will be soon. I am still convinced that only Africans (of all colours) can solve Africa’s problems. I hope I am right.<BR/><BR/>Rgds,<BR/><BR/>EebenEeben Barlow's Milsec Bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08942119485068301545noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-955273524757178757.post-10771245224520752362008-12-17T20:27:00.000+02:002008-12-17T20:27:00.000+02:00Jan Lamprecht stated that no "Liberation movement"...Jan Lamprecht stated that no "Liberation movement" has ever conceded power peacefully anywhere in Africa. I agree. Do you? <BR/><BR/>The ANC will not allow itself to be the first "liberation movement" party to meekly submit and meekly surrender power at the polls. <BR/><BR/>I agree with the sentiment that if the ANC begins to lose power, war on the scale of what we saw in the early 1990s in the Natal region will be a common occurence. <BR/><BR/>I have reached the stage where I no longer regard the thoughts that SA is heading down the Zim path as mere opinions of Rhodesians but something that is best described as clear and present danger. <BR/><BR/>I cannot see how, barring a miracle, that the ANC will shakes hands and accept defeat at the polls. This isnt Sweden. <BR/><BR/>The larger the black middle class becomes, the better it is for whites. The ANC will battle to convince middle class blacks that they have been hard done by whites when they are driving SUVs to work in Sandton <BR/><BR/>my 2cHe of difficult dayshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10481455602385166699noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-955273524757178757.post-12010772429878007952008-12-17T08:19:00.000+02:002008-12-17T08:19:00.000+02:00A new political party was created in SA, ER. It is...A new political party was created in SA, ER. It is known as the “Congress of the People” – abbreviated COPE. It does appear to be a party that has potential to make inroads into the current political environment. Obviously, in any form of democracy it is not a good thing to have one party dominating the playing field – therefore a strong opposition is necessary. COPE may be an important development as it may break the dominating party’s stranglehold over politics. <BR/><BR/>Traditionally, intelligence services are supposed to allow the political parties to play the field – as long as the policies are not aimed at destabilising the government, ie, the ruling party. That said, I suspect that the current SA intelligence services will monitor what is happening. Will they interfere? I doubt there will be much interference. The battle between the parties will most likely be fought in the media.<BR/><BR/>Rgds,<BR/><BR/>EebenEeben Barlow's Milsec Bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08942119485068301545noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-955273524757178757.post-68267338437702783352008-12-17T07:01:00.000+02:002008-12-17T07:01:00.000+02:00Hey Eeben,I heard a piece on NPR about an off shoo...Hey Eeben,<BR/>I heard a piece on NPR about an off shoot of the ANC, something peoples party. Is this a seriously developing alternative to the ANC in South Africa?<BR/>Many in our country feel like the only 2 parties that represent us are lost. Is that what's up with you guys?<BR/>Does the NI have an interest in this or do they let legitimate internal politics play themselves out?E Richardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03495376115561772752noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-955273524757178757.post-10736267840744964152008-12-17T06:22:00.000+02:002008-12-17T06:22:00.000+02:00“Gideon’s spies” is a very good book on some of th...“Gideon’s spies” is a very good book on some of the MOSSAD operations, HODD.<BR/><BR/>If anyone is interested in reading about intelligence/espionage matters, I will post something in the future on some good books I enjoyed on the subject.<BR/><BR/>Rgds,<BR/><BR/>EebenEeben Barlow's Milsec Bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08942119485068301545noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-955273524757178757.post-76449233824707553932008-12-16T20:31:00.000+02:002008-12-16T20:31:00.000+02:00There was another book "Gideons spies" Is it worth...There was another book "Gideons spies" <BR/><BR/>Is it worth anything to read that book?He of difficult dayshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10481455602385166699noreply@blogger.com